A “LOVELY” CHAT WITH SOME FOLKS OVER AT FREE THOUGHTS BLOG

gardasil-cartoon

I was so pleased with the efforts of Michelle Bachmann during the latest debate and her interviews with the press around the whole Gardasil issue that I wrote up a couple of comments sharing a few links and blasted around the web looking for news sights and blogs where I could post without being a member.

The people at Free Thoughts blog took issue with my comment and we shared a nice, thoughtful friendly chat in the comment section.

HUGE Profanity alert if you decide to go wading into comment section 

Here is my first comment 

Steve Burd, whose Coalition to Advance Healthcare Reform (CAHR), was the author of Obamacare and has written it into the rules and regs of the law that if a person is not fully vaccinated upon arrival at an ER, he or she must be brought up to date on said vaccines before being treated.

It is also implied in the bill that Peek a Boo squads can show up at your door and vaccinate you and your children if they are also not up to date on Vaccines. Medical Fascism is just around the corner…

Now, perhaps some believe these types of measures are necessary to ensure we all stay healthy. I choose to believe that darker agendas are behind these laws being put into place.

Michele Bachmann should be awarded for having the courage to spank Rick Perry and bring this issue into the light of day.

Many Girls have died after getting the shot – I created a blog entry yesterday that includes seven informational VIDEOS about those deaths

http://jennyhatch.com/2011/09/13/gardasil-if-a-picture-is-worth-a-thousand-words-then-a-video-report/

And a featured article at Blogging Mothers Magazine this month outlines my own horror story of attempting to warn innocents and stand up to those who created the HPV Vaccine:

https://bloggingmothersmagazine.com/2011/08/31/american-style-terrorism/

Many, Many people have been murdered around the campaign
to vaccinate American Teens. It is time for that story to be told.

Jenny Hatch
http://WWW.JennyHatch.com

And my second comment 

Hey guys!

Lots of hugs and kisses! First someone tells me to FO and then another person SWEETLY invites me back to enjoy a lovely thoughtful chat on Vaccines.

I am a busy Mom, so don’t have much time but here is an article about the IN-HOME vaccinations: http://vactruth.com/2009/12/19/health-care-bill-creates-peek-a-boo-squads-to-enforce-in-home-vaccinations/

XOXO

Jen

Third Comment

Beatrice and Bill,

You two are Really Really good at interpreting “Mormon Speak”..

Have a “Lovely” day,

XOXO

HUGS AND KISSES!

Jenny Hatch

Fourth Comment 

A thousand apologies, had NO IDEA this was a serious, thoughtful, and straight laced snark free zone of enlightenment and sophistication.

Nope, none of that at my house, or on my blog. It is all
just one big delusional paranoid fantasy of sovereign family living ahd empowered self reliance…

Please accept my heartfelt and most humble and SINCERE apology.

I will never again sully this bastion of “FREE THOUGHT” bought and paid for by Merck.

Jen

Fifth Comment 

Audley,

The scientific evidence that you request is to be found in my personal statistics.

Five Hatch Children not vaccinated and No Autism in any of them.

Two daughters not given the HPV vaccine and they are still alive!

This is the only scientific study that means anything to me personally.

I am not really into scientific double blind placeboed junk science that is bought and paid for by Pharma Companies.

My own experience with attempts to “silence” me on the
web have taught me that Big Pharma will go to just about any length to shut up those of us blowing our internet whistles.

https://bloggingmothersmagazine.com/2011/08/31/american-style-terrorism/

If you have any evidence that what I wrote in that article is not true, please present it.

Jenny Hatch
http://WWW.JennyHatch.com

Sixth Comment:

Jenny Hatch says:
16 September 2011 at 11:22 pm
HATCHBACK?

Puleeese. Gotta be something cooler than Hatchback.

For the dude who wanted to know why I was banned from Free Republic last month. This post contains a short explanation at the end: http://jennyhatch.com/2011/08/17/economic-congruency-ayn-rand-points-to-the-logical-next-step-of-obamas-financial-policies/

Ya’ll are kinda nice and thoughtful people, a little bit potty mouthed, but overall, where else could I go after being permanently banned from Mothering Mag Discussions and Free Republic?

Nobody likes me, sniff sniff…

Even the atheists think I should be sterilized and my children put in a reeducation camp…

Whatever shall I do?

Jenny Hatch

PS For the folks from the ex mormon site who were asking WHO in their midst wanted to try to “take me out” on this blog….come on over to The Natural Family Blog. LOVE to chat with people from all over the healthcare and religion spectrum. We could make a batch of popcorn, sit a while and chat…about life, and the pursuit of happyness.

Seventh Comment:

I have been debating vaccines on the web since I first showed up on the internet 14 years ago.

The conversations typically run the way this comment section has. Personal attacks against me and my family, calls for me to be sterilized, children removed from my care, and worse.

Repeated requests for scientific information that does not exist, (no one has the money to even attempt to conduct a double blind placebo study the way the pharma companies can and no “peer” exists to review it).

So instead of wasting my time typing attempting to share facts, I usually just do what I did here which was to sarcastically respond to the personal attacks and make a plea for parental rights by sharing pictures of my family and evidence that they are in fact alive and do exist. Quite often people accuse me of not being a Mom etc…

My son Jeff had whooping cough when he was two during an outbreak here in Colorado. Most of the children who caught it had already been vaccinated for it. This is the biggest issue for me. Vaccines give parents a false sense of security.

I believe because I breastfed him until he was three and effectively used oregano oil as treatment he was cured of the disease just as effectively as those who used allopathy. Those educated with the mountain of literature that exists on the benefits of mothers milk to immunity know that it is a completely appropriate place to put ones trust. As for the power of essential oils, if you have not tried them during an illness, get a bottle of young livings oregano and feel the magic during your next cold.

If oediatricians bullied parents into breastfeeding the way they shove vaccines we could have a true health revolution in America.

I simply demand my parental rights to make life or death health care choices for my children until they are old enough to make those choices for themselves.

I really don’t have much else to say, if you don’t like my blog or me, or my family just because we choose to live another lifestyle, and if you think we are somwhow a threat to you or your family or society, I can’t do anything to change that. But it should be abundantly clear by now that we have not made important health care decisions because of what everyone else is doing.

Jen

Eighth Comment

Beating my head against the monitor….

If I can’t use anecdotes to make my case, I have NOTHING because no group of parents can afford to counter pharma companies money, power, and authority.

All we have is our anecdotes, and I have read up on EVERYTHING I know all of the arguments, all of the issues, and I still choose to protect my children from intoxication from useless vaccines.

I will never publicly recant, will never allow them to be poisoned, and will go to prison before subjecting them to a fate worse than death by filling up their bodies and minds with a toxic syringe full of death and disability.

As for isolation, my children have much more to fear from other children shedding toxic live viruses for the ten days after they are innoculated than any child has to fear from my robustly healthy specimens of humanity.

And this is exactly the place where it is truly time for me to leave. Happy Trails…

Ninth Comment:

Anterprepo,

So very, very sorry for my mistake inmplying that anyone posting at this enlightened deep well of scientific bodaciousness would ever in a trillion years imply, infer, or suggest that I be sterilized and have my children taken away.

It was this site where the unthinkable occurred:http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,295875,295922

In the mad dash to respond to this site between weekend soccer games and UNDOUBTEDLY because my brain is suffering from a lack of nutrients and all that other “good stuff” that all ye enlightened nobles regularly blast into your brains from yearly flu shots (ya know, Aluminum, polysorbate 80, Squalene… etc etc) I inadverdently and without malice mixed up the messaging of the two sites…

Hanging my head in deep and neverending shame.

The idea or thought that anyone at this site could ever even think of using a personal attack as a debate skill when science, facts, and Big Pharma profit streams are on the line…I feel nauseated and faint at my own defensiveness and attempt to “stick up for myself” on this site.

Slinking my soul in self recrimination and quietly backing away while whispering “not worthy, not worthy”,

I skip back to The Natural Family Blog where we are talking about conceiving baby number six.

Fare thee well O ye enlightened purveyors of science, truth, and BALDERDASH.

Jenny

Tenth Comment

For your enlightenment and education:

http://healthfreedoms.org/2011/09/27/door-to-door-surprise-vaccinations-in-ca-district/

Door-To-Door Surprise Vaccinations In CA District

A school district in California took a healthcare employee with a news crew around to make sure all the kids had their vaccinations. You can see in the video they applied pressure to parents to vaccinate the children on the spot. A mother told the worker to “Get the f— out!”

They chose to do this right in the middle of the district’s budget crisis. And guess who doesn’t vaccinate his kids? See the video below.

Remember the article about Malawai children being vaccinated at gunpoint? That started with “health surveillance assistants” going into town and door-to-door. Think it can’t happen here?

~Health Freedoms

California District Is Doing Unannounced Door-to-Door Vaccines
The Natomas Unified School District in Sacramento, California is in financial trouble.* They’ve cut teacher salaries. Employees are being forced to take time off without pay. Class sizes are getting bigger and bigger. But when it comes to vaccinations, the sky’s the limit. The district is now doing door-to-door vaccinations. Unannounced. And they’ve taken a news crew around with them. Here’s a video showing it:

Could it possibly be more clear that our children are being handed over to Big Pharma as a profit center? Parents who make the intelligent choice not to vaccinate their children are subjected to humiliation and intimidation. Their children may be prevented from going to school. The news media acts as cheerleader and propagandist.

Parents are pressured. Not shown in the video is that they aren’t provided information about their right to opt out. If they choose to opt out, they aren’t given the exemption forms. No information is given about risks associated with the vaccine.

The vaccination in question is Tdap (tetanus, diphtheria, and acellular pertussis), and is one of the most questionable. The pertussis portion provides no protection against the new outbreaks of whooping cough, and is actually responsible for causing the new more virulent, 10 times as deadly, strain.

April Boden, who provided the information about this travesty, has written a letter of protest that delineates the California statute clearly stating that vaccines may not be mandated, and asks anyone and everyone to copy, paste, and send it. Here’s the letter, followed by addresses:

To Whom It May Concern,

After viewing the news report on how your school district decided to go door to door asking parents to vaccinate their children with Tdap in their homes, I grew concerned about your school’s knowledge of students’ and parents’ rights. I wonder if, instead of leaping to an assumption that the parents are experiencing different “family situations”, they may be having concerns over the safety and efficacy of the vaccine itself. It has certainly been all over the news that there is a Whooping Cough/Pertussis outbreak in California; however, very little is addressed about the fact that nearly all of those who contracted the disease had neither been fully vaccinated for it nor that California itself has one of the highest vaccination rates for Tdap in the country. Any parent informed of this may question the logic of yet another mandate on their child in order to attend school. Would it not be more appropriate to to offer them the exemption form Cdph 8261 as required in lieu of vaccination? Particularly given that it is their right to seek exemption on grounds of Personal Beliefs, and furthermore, in light of the information about the questionable efficacy of the vaccine. Find the a link to the CNN article that addresses this below. The law for vaccine mandate states as follows:

“120365. Immunization of a person shall not be required for admission to a school or other institution listed in Section 120335 if the parent or guardian or adult who has assumed responsibility for his or her care and custody in the case of a minor, or the person seeking admission if an emancipated minor, files with the governing authority a letter or affidavit stating that the immunization is contrary to his or her beliefs. However, whenever there is good cause to believe that the person has been exposed to one of the communicable diseases listed in subdivision (a) of Section 120325, that person may be temporarily excluded from the school or institution until the local health officer is satisfied that the person is no longer at risk of developing the disease.”

Was this information fully disclosed to the parents and was a vaccine exemption form provided? I have reason to believe they were not. I respectfully request that in the future, the district and News 10 act in a manner that is appropriate, fair and respectful to the privacy and wishes of families whose concerns about vaccination safety and efficacy are increasing. It is explicitly inappropriate to assume their “neglect” and display their names, addresses, and phone numbers on broadcast news.

Thank you for your time.

Respectfully,

Vaccination role unclear in whooping cough outbreak:http://articles.cnn.com/2010-06-28/health/california.whooping.cough_1_whooping-cough-pertussis-vaccines-and-autism?_s=PM:HEALTH

Natomas Unified School District
1901 Arena Blvd.
Sacramento, CA 95834
Phone: (916) 567-5400

Television news company that did the video:
News10
400 Broadway
Sacramento, CA 95812-0010
News Room Phone: (916) 321-3300

*Natomas Unified School District Salary Cut & Furlough Agreement

By Heidi Stevenson

Source:

http://gaia-health.com/gaia-blog/2011-09-26/california-district-is-doing-unannounced-door-to-door-vaccines/

Eleventh Comment

Hey guys,

So fun to be back to feel the love.

A general dissing was thrust in my general direction when I quoted the “Peek a Boo” article above. http://vactruth.com/2009/12/19/health-care-bill-creates-peek-a-boo-squads-to-enforce-in-home-vaccinations/

Just wanted to share this most recent article from Health Freedom to share the fact that the Peek a Boo squads, with news media along for the ride, are in fact taking place…

The other assertion above was that Emergency Rooms would not treat citizens who are not up to date on current vaccines.

In the bill, it is implied but not delineated…so it is a little more difficult to quantify and prove.

But when it happens, I will be certain to post a little update on this post for ya’ll.

Happy Trails….

Jen

PS Don’t really care about getting in the last word, it’s more…I missed the general sense of “head up our collective ass” that seems to permeate this place. It’s refreshing to know some “true believers” still exist in the world…LMAO

Comment Number 12

“they really are out to get you.”

Naw, I have been dodging them for 4 years. Gotta give em credit though, they are persistent little buggers.

They have NOT been able to take me or my family out, sickened us yes, but not murdered.

But these people are dead: http://vaccineresistancemovement.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/micro_dees2.jpg

And so are the Dead Gardasil Girls: http://nwotruth.com/texas-school-girls-still-dying-in-the-wake-of-rick-perrys-greed/

And these families have some stories to share:http://followingvaccinations.com/

Why would anyone question the World Health Organization…

http://www.adamdanielmezei.com/uploads/MargaretChanWHO.jpg

So very, very credible, professional, and AUTHORITATIVE.

“We have been shown people with serious faces and a professional air, the sort to whom ordinary mortals tend to ascribe genuine competence and evident integrity.

Their herald, elevated by some to hero, is called Margaret Chan. If her manner does not excite much sympathy, her curriculum vitae speaks for itself.”

Or Laurie Garrett? http://www.fluscam.com/FEAR,_FLU_%26_FRAUD.html

“So the proper picture here shows Laurie Garrett prostituting for the drug cartel, moaning about the coming plagues, sucking up to vaccine sorcerers, and fornicating for the orgasmic goal of profitable depopulation.”

I wonder how many Big Pharma Whores live and breath here at Free Thought Blogs???

Jen

Comment 13

I think most who vaccinate their kids and stick up for vaccines on the Internet are True Believers. Naive, but they really believe that syringe filled with a slurry of toxins and chemicals shot into the body will help rather than hurt. And it is likely that most who comment here are also True Believers who show an unusual dedication to science without questioning the ebb and flow of the almighty dollar attached to the mass poisoning of humanity.

But to assume that no organized efforts exist to maintain and even expand the vaccine industry seems just a wee bit delusional. And to think that Big Pharma is just sitting quietly doing nothing proactive to deal with dissenters is more than naive, it is childish.

http://healthimpactnews.com/2011/fda-commissioner-pushing-to-eliminate-conflict-of-interest-laws-allow-paid-drug-company-reps-to-fill-advisory-positions/

I don’t really care if I am talking to a true believer or a paid shill. Lord knows I have debated plenty of both over at Free Republic for the past eight years. A whole posse of full time commenters playing “Whack a Mole” over on that site, no doubt bought and paid for by Pharma Companies to defend and push Allopathic Medicine to death, would pop up any time someone posted a thread questioning any part of the Health Care System, especially vaccines. You know the game where a mole pops up and little kids have to whack it down with a mallet? Well that is how it felt to be a participant on that site when talking about Healing.

How pathetic of a product are you selling when you have to have government mandates, police, courts, and over zealous politicians shove your comodity on the populace.

I understand the “Herd Immunity” argument.

But can we all suspend disbelief for just a minute and throw out the idea that this is a Marketing Tactic.

What other industry could get away with this fraud? And get politicians to write laws making it impossible for those damaged or killed by said product absolved of all financial responsibility to victims and their families. No other manufacturer in the world would attempt or presume that level of fraud.

But the drug companies know that if Vaccines go down they are going to take the whole bloated, toxic, behemoth known as modern medicine with it. And they sure as hell are not going down without a fight.

If you are a true believer, do some research on one of the excellent web sites put together by people not in the pay of Big Pharma.

If you are a paid troll, look in the mirror and ask yourself if that check you get every month from your pimp is worth the death and disbility of huge swaths of humanity being sacrificed on the alter of prosperity and financial solvency. Shame, Shame, Shame on you. Get a real job, do something positive with your life, produce something to help humanity, serve those in need and STOP fueling the insanity by dumping on Mothers like me who just want to raise a healthy Family.

Jenny Hatch

Comment #14

Sincerity….hmmmm.

How to word this…..thinking…..(pondering)

Sincere, Is it possible for me to even consider Sincerity?

Snark is usually my best tactic when chatting about vaccines, but hmmm, this dude really seems to want to know what I think.

Lives saved by Vaccines.

It is my humble and sincere belief that from the beginning of the twentieth century elites have used vaccines to cull the population and intoxicate as many people with deadly toxins as possible to create a neverending stream of income for themselves, their friends, and their families.

I believe the very vaccines used to “Prevent” certain diseases in fact give individuals the disease in question and the vaccine manufacturers, who also own the media, use fear based programming to frighten the gullible into getting the shot.

Exibit 1: Swine Flu H1 N1

In the lead up to the vaccine being available, the level of media propaganda was tailored to each country. In America, a high school football player in his prime was featured all over the news as being struck down by the disease. In Canada it was a hockey player, in Australia it was prob a Rugby Player, and no doubt in England a prize Polo player was featured all over the news as having fallen prey to the dread disease.

Thinking being that if the young, anthletic, and healthy are keeling over dead or disabled, Everyone needs to get this shot, TODAY, or we are all gonna die.

Some of us have done the research and understand exactly what a squalene adjuvenated flu shot is doing to the American People. You watch, it won’t be long now…just a few more years and you will see a new disease hit marked by a strange purplish hue on the faces and bodies of those who received the shot.

This purple bruising will be evidence that Squalene Adjuvent was included in some of the vaccines, and while doctors run around trying to figure out what the new plague of the week is, citizens will be dropping like flies as the body shuts down from a cytokine storm.

I recomend reading Vaccine A by Gary Matsumoto to educate yourselves on Squalene Adjuvent.

Lives Saved? Not too many…

Lives Destroyed? Millions upon Millions upon Millions.

Jenny

Comment #15

Hey Guys,

I am into nourishing my brain with vitamins, minerals, and protein. I use alternative healing to keep me healthy and well. Not into Sorcery, Witches Brews, and Toxic Crap being injected into my body and the bodies/minds of my children.

Not crazy, Not Paranoid, Not Delusional…just quietly educating anyone interested in an alternative path, and willing to stand publicly against the Death Merchants.

The fact that the Death Merchants have targeted me for poisoning has taught me that my message and my tactics have been effective. I should insert here that it is my faith in Jesus Christ and my knowledge of how to quickly detoxify my body using alternative healing that has enabled me to remain alive despite multiple attacks.

For those who would like to learn more about the Death Merchants:

Google:

Partnership for New York City – http://www.pfnyc.org/history.html
and the Rockefellers-Population Council (Leading De-Population Group),

Goldman Sachs-Lloyd Blankfein, Scientific Fraud from President Obamas Favorite Corporation.

Rupert Murdoch and family – heads of Merck. Smith Kline Beecham, and Elisabeth Murdoch of the Murdoch Childrens Research Institute:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elisabeth_Murdoch_(philanthropist)

Thomas Glocer-Merck and Reuters,

John Holdren – (Obama Science Czar) Called for massive global depopulation using vaccine in his book.

History of Vaccines with Dr. Leonard Horowitz Part 1 of 6:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tynHSqJsEs&noredirect=1

History of Vaccines with Dr. Leonard Horowitz Part 2 of 6:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgodtOhwnVM&feature=related

History of Vaccines with Dr. Leonard Horowitz Part 3 of 6:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2VNu4wu4ZY&feature=related

Lots of Love!

Jenny Hatch

Healthy Families Make A Healthy World!

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